Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Use latest dev. It has the. Hanges you need.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Hamburger wrote:Use latest dev. It has the. Hanges you need.


Thanks .... but two questions:

Is it necessary to clear the EEPROM before flashing the dev?
Can I use my config.h from 2.2Final?

Thanks

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Since i lost my pid values many times i now do a "save" of the values in the multiwii.conf . You have to add the .mwi extension to the file name (doesent do it automatically) and it doesent save the mode switches, but it does save the numbers. When eeprom gets corrupted i do a "load", enter the switches again, then a "write".

Very useful feature :)

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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I did some tests with a crius_se (ITG3200) and an AIO V1 (MPU6050). The test consists of start level, do a looping over pitch, level again and quick check the pitch value in conf utility. Should be zero.
I confirm the value of 2380 working excellent for the ITG3200. But for the MPU6050 i found a value of 2020 working good. My code looks like this now:

#if defined(MPU6050)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((2020 * PI)/((32767.0f / 4.0f ) * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) // MPU6050
#elif defined(ITG3200)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((2380 * PI)/((32767.0f / 4.0f ) * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) // ITG3200
#else
#define GYRO_SCALE ((2279 * PI)/((32767.0f / 4.0f ) * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) // dunno
#endif

Is this method correct or is there a systematical error?

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Hamburger wrote:Use latest dev. It has the. Hanges you need.


Sorry Hamburger,

but in Version 2.21 "#define Gyro_Scale...." is still the same (equal value for ITG and MPU) as in Version 2.20 ...

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Plüschi wrote:Is this correct ?

#if defined(MPU6050)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((1998 * PI)/((32767.0f / 4.0f ) * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(MPU6050)
#else
#define GYRO_SCALE ((2279 * PI)/((32767.0f / 4.0f ) * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(ITG3200)
#endif


That is correct, but I would have written it this way coz it's easier to match with the data sheet, and a compile error would alert the user that the GYRO_SCALE is not defined for the sensor:

#if defined(MPU6050)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI)/(14.375 * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(MPU6050)
#endif
#if defined(ITG3200)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI)/(16.4 * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(ITG3200)
#endif
#if defined(L3G4200D)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI * 70.0f)/(1000.0f * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(L3G4200D) this needs changes to Gyro_init and Gyro_getADC to set 2000dps and divide result by 4 instead of 20
#endif

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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-ralf- wrote:but in Version 2.21 "#define Gyro_Scale...." is still the same (equal value for ITG and MPU) as in Version 2.20 ...

I do not know version 2.21. It is included since dev version r1428.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Where can we download the latest dev version? I can only see R1391 from the official download site. This would have saved me a lot of trouble.

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Never mind, found it under source tab.

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What does correction of Gyro scale - better stability or something else?

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I still dont understand why for
ltg should be 16.4 but good results are with 17.12
mpu should be 14.375 but good results are with 14.54
Any ideas?

I did check the time, but ist correct, the time in-between samples is measured each cycle.

@scrat: if this factor is wrong the copter will not stay level right after a looping

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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The data sheet figures are "typical" values at 2.5v VDD and 25 C temperature. Most IMUs are running at 3.3v and we don't all live in the Bahamas. Hence, real values are almost guaranteed to vary.

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TY

your a clever guy.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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If he could make his first quad actually fly, yes... but he can't :lol:

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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ovaltineo wrote:That is correct, but I would have written it this way coz it's easier to match with the data sheet, and a compile error would alert the user that the GYRO_SCALE is not defined for the sensor:

#if defined(MPU6050)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI)/(14.375 * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(MPU6050)
#endif
#if defined(ITG3200)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI)/(16.4 * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(ITG3200)
#endif
#if defined(L3G4200D)
#define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI * 70.0f)/(1000.0f * 180.0f * 1000000.0f)) //(L3G4200D) this needs changes to Gyro_init and Gyro_getADC to set 2000dps and divide result by 4 instead of 20
#endif

Call me confused, but is the current code in _shared actually correct then? Or have the scaling factors between ITG3200 and MPU6050 been mixed up?

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#if defined(ITG3200)
  #define GYRO_SCALE (4 / 14.375 * PI / 180.0 / 1000000.0) //ITG3200   14.375 LSB/(deg/s) and we ignore the last 2 bits
#endif
#if defined(L3G4200D)
  #define GYRO_SCALE ((4.0f * PI * 70.0f)/(1000.0f * 180.0f * 1000000.0f))
#endif
#if defined(MPU6050)
  #define GYRO_SCALE (4 / 16.4 * PI / 180.0 / 1000000.0)   //MPU6050 and MPU3050   16.4 LSB/(deg/s) and we ignore the last 2 bits
#endif

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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It was fixed in _shared on commit r1428 https://code.google.com/p/multiwii/source/detail?r=1428 with addition updates to L3G4200D in r1435 and 1439

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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OK, thanks. So the values in _shared are correct, and the ones posted by ovaltineo earlier in this thread were the other way around (and wrong?)

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Yes, I got them mixed up.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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See this post for my quick and dirty backport for the "release" 2.2:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1591&start=20#p36799

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See this post for my quick and dirty backport for the "release" 2.2:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1591&start=20#p36799

(and tell me if anything is wrong with doing that)

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Sorry about the double post above, but I also have another MPU6050 possible issue/question:

The MPU6050 has both the ACCEL and the GYRO right? (Crius All in one pro V1)

Does GYRO_SCALE also affect the ACC scale?

Where is the code that sets the ACC gain? Specifically, the individual X,Y, and Z gains?

I still feel that my Z-axis accel is too sensitive.

Shaking the copter randomly and equally in 3 dimensions always produces a larger response in Z.

Also, prop vibrations show up more in the Z axis than in X or Y (Which are IMHO incorrectly marked as ROLL and PITCH in MultiWiiConf. GYRO is ROLL and PITCH, but ACC should be X and Y). Logically, one would expect a prop imbalance (in a Quad) to create significantly more X,Y vibrations, while only showing up a bit in Z.

This is causing prop vibrations to result in vertical surging, while ROLL and PITCH are solid as a rock.

I can get rid of the vertical surging by either balancing my props more carefully, or using more Low pass filter (Lower cut off value), but I think a better fix would be to reduce the influence of the Z axis accel.

I'd like to try reducing my ACC (Not GYRO) gains individually, but I do not know where in the code to do this.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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linuxslate wrote:The MPU6050 has both the ACCEL and the GYRO right? (Crius All in one pro V1)

yes


Does GYRO_SCALE also affect the ACC scale?

no

Where is the code that sets the ACC gain? Specifically, the individual X,Y, and Z gains?

in IMU.ino
there is no individual X/Y/Z setting

Shaking the copter randomly and equally in 3 dimensions always produces a larger response in Z.

that should not be the case

Also, prop vibrations show up more in the Z axis than in X or Y (Which are IMHO incorrectly marked as ROLL and PITCH in MultiWiiConf. GYRO is ROLL and PITCH, but ACC should be X and Y). Logically, one would expect a prop imbalance (in a Quad) to create significantly more X,Y vibrations, while only showing up a bit in Z.

I think the effect of unbalanced motors or propellers is hard to predict.
The frequency is high, and frame resonance effects could lead to other axis perturbation.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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@Alexinparis:

I have mwii v2.2 and I have set in EEPROM.ino for stick scalling: 2*...code below.

for(i=0;i<6;i++) {
lookupPitchRollRC[i] = 2* (2500+conf.rcExpo8*(i*i-25))*i*(int32_t)conf.rcRate8/2500;

I know there is fix for gyro scale in new dev code. With gyro scale fixed, can I still set 2* for better stick response?

Thanks!

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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scrat wrote:@Alexinparis:

I have mwii v2.2 and I have set in EEPROM.ino for stick scalling: 2*...code below.

for(i=0;i<6;i++) {
lookupPitchRollRC[i] = 2* (2500+conf.rcExpo8*(i*i-25))*i*(int32_t)conf.rcRate8/2500;

I know there is fix for gyro scale in new dev code. With gyro scale fixed, can I still set 2* for better stick response?

Thanks!


this tweak still works and is independent with gyro scale.
you can also raise your rc rate

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Thanks.

I'm using this tweak and rc rate set to 1.50 since I bought AIO pro. Because I'm used to have more response from quad.

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

Post by Shanthosh Ravikumar »

hey all !!
I am new to this forum and a first time user of Multiwii ( Nanowii)
and i am having an error when i compile the firmware in arduino..
the error is shown like this
"IMU.cpp: In function 'void getEstimatedAttitude()':
IMU.cpp:189: error: 'GYRO_SCALE' was not declared in this scope "

I have no idea about this error ... and I dont know how to correct this
can anyone please help me ???

Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Gyro_scale is wrong for MPU6050?

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Shanthosh Ravikumar wrote:hey all !!
I am new to this forum and a first time user of Multiwii ( Nanowii)
and i am having an error when i compile the firmware in arduino..
the error is shown like this
"IMU.cpp: In function 'void getEstimatedAttitude()':
IMU.cpp:189: error: 'GYRO_SCALE' was not declared in this scope "

I have no idea about this error ... and I dont know how to correct this
can anyone please help me ???

Thanks in advance :)

Have you uncommented a specific board type or independent sensors in config.h, and which ones have you uncommented?

Kenny

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