Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

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miniquad wrote:@Hamburger, I tried to set up the BT module but couldn't get it to work with MultiWii configuration tool. After I add the BT module on my computer, it creates two new COM ports (Example: port 12, 13) on my computer. But I found that I can communicate only over the first port (port 12) when I test it using a serial monitor program, the second port seems to be non-responsive. When I start the MultiWii configuratoion tool, it conly recognizes the second port (port 12), but not port 11. So I am unable to connect to multwii via the serial BT module. Did you have similar problem? Any possible solution?

Thanks in advance.


Hi, miniquad

I have the same problem. Tested the unit with two PCs and using a terminal emulator I was able to connect to the two ports (that were created after the drivers install) and one of them was working. When tried the MultiWii GUI the only port accessible was the non working one. Don't know why the module creates two ports, I thought one is for configuring, but couldn't make it work for that either. Why is the MultiWii GUI not recognizing the port?
I use a 5V to 3.3V voltage regulator to power the module, but I don't have a level converter for RX and TX and it works fine with the MAX232 I use to get it to work with the serial port of one of the test PCs. Hopefully the Arduino will tolerate the same levels, but first I would like to get the MultiWii GUI to see the port.

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@Hamburger: I meant to say the Configurator GUI only detects port 13, but not port 12

@noobee: I am using 3.3v regulator to power up the board and resistors to do the level conversion.

@thebgrian: Yes I am stuck as you as well for the moment. I looked at some of the documents of the BT module and it is supposed to create two ports, and both are supposed to be bi-directional.


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Hi there...

I have Bluetooth running with my MultiWiiCopter and my PC. I can connect the MultiWiiConfig-Tool with my WiiCopter over Bluetooth.
This is very usefull when you setting up PID on the WiiCopter.

1.:
you need a Bluetooth-Modul with a converter.
I use the BTM-222 Modul
http://cgi.ebay.de/Bluetooth-Modul-SPP-UART-class-1-BTM-222-100m-/140529938001?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Ger%C3%A4te&hash=item20b83cae51
with this :
http://robotrack.org/include.php?path=article&contentid=279
2.:
you have to setup the Bluetooth-Modul with some AT-Commands:
To edit the parameters of the BTM-222, must be a serial connect to the PC via a RS232-TTL converter.
Somethink like this: USB2.0 to RS232 TTL Converter Module PL2303
http://cgi.ebay.de/USB2-0-to-RS232-TTL-Converter-Module-PL2303-4pcs-cable-/270728792008?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f08b187c8
!!! DO NOT connect teh Modul directly to the COM port. This will destroy the module.!!!

It is NOT possible to edit the parameters via Bluetooth.

Use a Terminalprogram (HyperTerminal)
set the Terminalprogram to:
19200 Baud
8 Bit
no Parity
Stopbits:1
Flow: hardware

That are the AT-Commands for the BTM-222: (maybe other Modules have other AT-Commands)
ATL5 (115200 Baud - you have to set the Terminalprogram to 115200 Baud after that - reconnect)
ATR1 (Device is Slave)
ATN=Name (optional)
ATP=1234 PIN (default=1234, optional)
ATQ1 (after that the Modul answers nomore)
ATE0 (deactivate ECHO)

3.:
you need the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack (for Windows). The MultiWiiConfig-Tool only works with this Bluetooth-Stack.

here is a very useful link:
http://mikrokopter.de/ucwiki/BTM-222?highlight=%28btm%29|%28222%29
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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

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Thank you very much for your helpful tips @nenno! As soon as I downloaded the Toshiba BT stack and installed it, everything worked perfectly fine. :)

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miniquad wrote:Thank you very much for your helpful tips @nenno! As soon as I downloaded the Toshiba BT stack and installed it, everything worked perfectly fine. :)


No problem...
What's very importend when you have a Bluetooth-Connection:

You have to setup the Modul that it "dosnt talk" from itself.

AT-Commands for the BTM-222:
ATQ1 (after that the Modul answers nomore)
ATE0 (deactivate ECHO)


When u dosnt disable "ECHO" and "answer" it can happen that the modul writes "rubbish" to the arduino. That can cause crashes!!!

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Can someone post a picture or drawing of their connection to the bluetooth?
Thanks

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Hi kiliam, I have the HC-05 version and I use the schematic at this link:
http://www.pial.net/post/Using-the-HC-0 ... oller.aspx

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Thank you for the link. From what i see we only need to power it with 3.3v (i use duemilanove so i have 3.3v out) and use a resistor in tx, and a pullup resistor in rx right?
By the way i have a cable i made to talk with my fonera from com port to a max232, can i use it to configure this? I think not because of higher voltage...

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I have got a working BTM-222 with robotrack-pcb.

Is there any Android-compatible software, which can change f.e. the PID-settings of my MultiWiiCopter?
That would be awesome on the flying field!

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@kiliam, there are two resistors on the rx line, one series and one pullup which works like a voltage divider to pull the voltage down to around 2.8~3.0 volt range, because the rx line will be receiving data signals from the tx pin of arduino, which is running at 5.0 volt. You can always use the 3.3v out of pro-mini to power the module. Also you can use your existing RS232 cable to configure the module once you have the protection resistors in place as shown in the schematic.

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Thank you for your quick reply but before i saw it i used the duemilanove to power the bluetooth and the max232 chip with 3.3v and putted a wire from PIO11 with a 10k resitor to 3.3v and using hercules program i managed to change the settings... But now i cant find it. And before i did...
Tomorrow i will try to connect to it to serial again.
But thanks for your link, avoid me from waiting for a llc.


Edit: my laptop see it now, my phone dont, dont know why. I will try to add the resistors tomorrow for connecting it to arduino.
By the way, the code going to arduino tx(1) and rx(2), for lcd for instance does not affect the blutooth module?

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For anyone that has the BT without the baseboard, here is a place to get them. Great stuff if you want to use the BT with 5 volts.

http://www.emartee.com/product/41981/Sm ... 0Baseboard

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I have the Goodluckbuy version, not sure if its the HC04, 05 or 06 version...

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... rs232.html

I dont have the appropiate resistors on hand for the Voltage Divider connection, but I do have a few SFE logic level converters.

I am figuring that one of these should be enough for the level conversion, but I am unsure whether or not the Reset line should have the 10K/0.1uF circuit outlined here:

http://www.pial.net/image.axd?picture=2 ... rBoard.png

Any help or suggestions would be welcomed...

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420RcPilot wrote:I have the Goodluckbuy version, not sure if its the HC04, 05 or 06 version...
...
Any help or suggestions would be welcomed...

Jussi,
what is the name by which the module identifies itself? That may give a clue as to the version.
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I cant even get it to connect to any of my computers....

3.3V and GND should be enough to power up the module and make it discoverable, right?

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420RcPilot wrote:I cant even get it to connect to any of my computers....

3.3V and GND should be enough to power up the module and make it discoverable, right?


should be, but I am not sure since you mention it. I think when I tired this once it did not work. Don't know the reason though, could have been my faulty overall setup at that time. But I am positive it does not need to be configured correctly nor requires data input over serial to be discoverable.

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420RcPilot wrote:I have the Goodluckbuy version, not sure if its the HC04, 05 or 06 version...

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... rs232.html

I dont have the appropiate resistors on hand for the Voltage Divider connection, but I do have a few SFE logic level converters.

I am figuring that one of these should be enough for the level conversion, but I am unsure whether or not the Reset line should have the 10K/0.1uF circuit outlined here:

http://www.pial.net/image.axd?picture=2 ... rBoard.png

Any help or suggestions would be welcomed...

Jussi


That 10K/0.1uf on the reset line is to do a automatic reset on power up and later keep it in active mode. Cutting off the 0.1uf will not do a auto reset on power up, which is not necessarily needed, but just to be safe. You can always do a manual reset.

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Hamburger, Miniquad...

I cant get the module to be found by any of my computers. Do I need to make a reset upon powerup to make it discoverable.

I would like to add pads for a cheap BT module on the next revision of my shield. Can anyone help me with a confirmed working schematic for the integration of these modules - then I will add it to next version of promini and Mega shields....

Thanks

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420RcPilot wrote:Hamburger, Miniquad...

I cant get the module to be found by any of my computers. Do I need to make a reset upon powerup to make it discoverable.

NO
I would like to add pads for a cheap BT module on the next revision of my shield. Can anyone help me with a confirmed working schematic for the integration of these modules - then I will add it to next version of promini and Mega shields....


Jussi,
all the cheap modules I own support
+ one LED+R combination - pin 24 (pio1)
+ TXD,RXD pins 1,2 ( I always have to try which way round to connect to the tx,rx arduino pins, sorry.)
+ Vin 3.3V pin 12 (for the modules without shield I have always powered from the 5V arduino output with one diode.)
+gnd pin 13
runs right from power up as can be seen by blinking led.
LED turns to static on, when connection from computer is established.

IIRC pressing the arduino reset does not reset the bt module in any way.

My jussi-board is not assembled yet but I will give feedback asap.

And yes, I think having BT available on the board is the way to go; just keep in mind it needs to be disconnected for using the usb link to the computer. (in theory it must be possible to do programming the arduino via BT also, but you will have to press the reset button at the correct moment - I never succeded with this so far, because the arduino app establishes the bt connection just prior to sending and I could not find the correct half-second (?) to press the arduino reset button)

update I have soldered a 4 pin connector to all my setups to which I can directly connect my BT modules (with a diode) or the BT shields. In order to be able to do this, the 4 pins should be +5V, GND, tx,rx - not sure about the sequence of the last two. I would love to find a 4 pin header for this on future jussi boards.

Hope that helps

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I have banged away @ a new version of the promini shield that (among other things), has a footprint and passives for hooking up these cheap BT modules....

Need to get a few things straight....

I am assuming that like normally, RX connects to TX and Vice versa for the Arduino-> BT connection. Can someone pls check and confirm?

Is a jumper to disconnect 3.3V from the BT module enough to disconnect/disable the module for FDTI programming.?

Is the LED on PIO1 necessary in your opinion?

I the schematic outlined in Pial´s blog there is a 10K-> jumper-> 3v3 connection on Pin 34 (PIO11). What is this for...do we need it?

Here is what I got so far. I would appreciate if someone compared this shcematic to a working setup!
BT_Sch.png
(11.13 KiB) Not downloaded yet

Thanks

Jussi

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IMO, getting one of the baseboards is well worth the money.

http://www.emartee.com/product/41981/Sm ... 0Baseboard

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420RcPilot wrote:I have banged away @ a new version of the promini shield that (among other things), has a footprint and passives for hooking up these cheap BT modules....

Need to get a few things straight....

I am assuming that like normally, RX connects to TX and Vice versa for the Arduino-> BT connection. Can someone pls check and confirm?

Is a jumper to disconnect 3.3V from the BT module enough to disconnect/disable the module for FDTI programming.?

Is the LED on PIO1 necessary in your opinion?

I the schematic outlined in Pial´s blog there is a 10K-> jumper-> 3v3 connection on Pin 34 (PIO11). What is this for...do we need it?

Here is what I got so far. I would appreciate if someone compared this shcematic to a working setup!
BT_Sch.png

Thanks

Jussi


The 3v3 connection on Pin 34 is to enable AT command to configure the BT module. When the BT module starts with Pin 34 high, the module runs on AT command receive mode and you can send AT commands to modify settings of the BT module. But make sure the BT module you have has the same firmware as this. Because I have seen another version of this module with older version firmware with a little bit of different pin layouts for the LED pins and AT command enable pin. This perticular module support both master and slave mode.

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Thanks,Miniquad

Can you confirm the connections of the serials rx->tx and tx->rx

Are you saying that the modules will only have differences as to AT enable and Led pins? That would mean that TX/RX and power connections are the same for all these modules? If that is so the ppl with older modules can just make a jumper to enable AT command recieve! I can live with that!

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420RcPilot wrote:Can you confirm the connections of the serials rx->tx and tx->rx

Are you saying that the modules will only have differences as to AT enable and Led pins? That would mean that TX/RX and power connections are the same for all these modules? If that is so the ppl with older modules can just make a jumper to enable AT command recieve! I can live with that!


Jussi,

sorry to chime in here, but

yes, +3.3V, gnd, rx, tx are on the same pins on all versions I have laid my hands on (4 at the moment).
LED support differs - 1 or 2 LEDs on different pins depending on version,
program pin to enter AT mode upon power up - some versions require this, others do not.

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@Jussi, Hamburger is absolutely right about the tx,rx,3v3 and Gnd pins. And yes arduino rx should be connected to BT module tx and arduino tx should be connected to BT module rx.

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Hamburger, Miniquad

Thanks for confirming this. My second module showed up today, so I will try and see if can breathe some life into that....

The shields will be ordered tonight and should be available in 12 business days....

One last question: Can a normal SFE logic level converter be used instead of the voltage divider solution?

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420RcPilot wrote:Hamburger, Miniquad

One last question: Can a normal SFE logic level converter be used instead of the voltage divider solution?

Jussi


I think that is most certainly possible.

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A little progress....

Module number 2 shows up on both my computers....

But I am not having much luck with HyperTerminal after building the voltage divider circuit....Anyone got a better alternative?

I have the reset line components in and the PIO11 -> 10k -> 3.3V installed on a breadboard.

I am using a basic sparkfun FDTI. It has an option to run at 3.3v instead. If I do this, can I just then make serial connection to the module without the voltage divider...?

Thanks

Jussi

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420RcPilot wrote:Hamburger, Miniquad

Thanks for confirming this. My second module showed up today, so I will try and see if can breathe some life into that....

The shields will be ordered tonight and should be available in 12 business days....

One last question: Can a normal SFE logic level converter be used instead of the voltage divider solution?

Jussi


You cannot use "TX" channels as they are designed for "open drain" drivers. And "RX" channels on SFE LLC are just voltage dividers. :)

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420RcPilot wrote:A little progress....

Module number 2 shows up on both my computers....

But I am not having much luck with HyperTerminal after building the voltage divider circuit....Anyone got a better alternative?

I have the reset line components in and the PIO11 -> 10k -> 3.3V installed on a breadboard.

I am using a basic sparkfun FDTI. It has an option to run at 3.3v instead. If I do this, can I just then make serial connection to the module without the voltage divider...?

Thanks

Jussi


If the FTDI board is running at 3.3v, you should be able to connect tx/rx lines directly. But do make sure the voltage on the tx/rx lines on the FTDI board is at that level with a multimeter just to be safe..

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does anyone have a working example of a sketch that can be uploaded to a Arduino that will configure this BT module from the code? I cant seem to get it to respond to the AT commands and just need to config it.

Ideas?

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dpackham wrote:does anyone have a working example of a sketch that can be uploaded to a Arduino that will configure this BT module from the code? I cant seem to get it to respond to the AT commands and just need to config it.

Ideas?


Dpackham, the version of this module I have has one pin that needs to be set high on power up inorder to set the module in AT command receive mode. If you have the same version (usually the newer ones sold on ebay or elsewhere with MX written on top of the controller chip). Once the module starts up in AT command mode, connect to the module using your FTDI/similar usb/serial module at baud rate set to 38400kbps. You will then be able to configure the module using AT commands. To test if the module is in AT mode, type "AT" and hit enter in your terminal software (assuming your software is attaching CR and LF) and the module should respond "OK". I used the following commands to change the name of the device and baud rate:

AT+NAME=SOME_NAME

AT+ UART=115200,0,0 (buad rate,stop bit, parity)

You can check the data sheet posted @ http://www.pial.net/post/Using-the-HC-0 ... oller.aspx, for details on AT commands.

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i cant really pull up one leg. I have a shield that has this chip soldered onto it already like this.

http://iteadstudio.com/store/index.php? ... cts_id=307

so I need to get at it programatically sending a +++ command to get it into command mode.
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dpackham wrote:i cant really pull up one leg. I have a shield that has this chip soldered onto it already like this.

http://iteadstudio.com/store/index.php? ... cts_id=307

so I need to get at it programatically sending a +++ command to get it into command mode.


if you find the +++ commands to work, fine. I doubt it though. The programming pin is probably floating, so you may still try pulling it high via 10k resistor even though the module is soldered to that board.

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Succes....I finally got the BT module to respond to AT commands.

It is this module:

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... rs232.html

The connection diagram is here:

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... pin-1.html

You only need to pull pin 24 high (PIO1). Just connect directly to 3.3V to enable the module to read AT commands. (It did not work with a 10K resistor)

My SFE Basic FDTI is able to change to 3.3V operation, so I just did that and hooked up Module TX to FDTI RX and vice versa. No reset connection was necessary!

I did not have any luck with HyperTerminal or Hercules. Instead I used a demo-version of Advanced Serial Terminal. This is payware beyod a 14-day trial period, so I would like some suggestions for a freeware terminal program....Preferably one that works in a 64-bit windows environment!

I havent hooked it up to the Duino yet, but I will do that tonight. I will post some more thorough instructions and some pictures when I get it all running!

Since this module is TTL (Actually LV-TTL) I am assuming that any resistor combination that gets RX high under 3.3V is good...(I would use 5K and 2*4.7K to get 3.26V) Or am I running too close to 3.3V for this to be safe?

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JussiH wrote:Succes....I finally got the BT module to respond to AT commands.

It is this module:

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... rs232.html

The connection diagram is here:

http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... pin-1.html

You only need to pull pin 24 high (PIO1). Just connect directly to 3.3V to enable the module to read AT commands. (It did not work with a 10K resistor)

My SFE Basic FDTI is able to change to 3.3V operation, so I just did that and hooked up Module TX to FDTI RX and vice versa. No reset connection was necessary!

I did not have any luck with HyperTerminal or Hercules. Instead I used a demo-version of Advanced Serial Terminal. This is payware beyod a 14-day trial period, so I would like some suggestions for a freeware terminal program....Preferably one that works in a 64-bit windows environment!

I havent hooked it up to the Duino yet, but I will do that tonight. I will post some more thorough instructions and some pictures when I get it all running!

Since this module is TTL (Actually LV-TTL) I am assuming that any resistor combination that gets RX high under 3.3V is good...(I would use 5K and 2*4.7K to get 3.26V) Or am I running too close to 3.3V for this to be safe?

Thanks

Jussi


hi,

can i confirm that you got that exact goodluckbuy bluetooth module that you linked (no baseboard)?

i have that module too and used this http://www.emartee.com/product/41981/Smart%20Bluetooth%20Module%20Baseboard to communicate with it (but only at 9600baud so far). this baseboard connects PIO1 to the LED and it lights up properly (flashes on standby, solid on connected), so i'm confused about how to get to AT command mode.

strangely, if there is no bluetooth session connected, i could actually send the "AT" command and receive the "OK" response from the module. but, i cannot seem to change the baud rate or set any other parameters. what is the exact command string did you send to change the baud rate, pin or device name?

i've also tried connecting PIO11 to 3.3v on powerup but it did not help. the goodluckbuy and emartee pages also indicated that PIO3 is the "WAKEUP" signal, anyone knows what that does?

looking for any help to change the baudrate of this http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluetooth-rf-transceiver-module-rs232.html goodluckbuy bluetooth module. thanks!

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Hi noobee,

what name does the BT module display if you scan for it from some computer/smartphone?
You may try sending it 'AT+BAUD8" at 9600. That will set it to 115200.
Sending 'AT+NAMEname' will set the name.
No AT commands, no further options.
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Hamburger wrote:Hi noobee,

what name does the BT module display if you scan for it from some computer/smartphone?
You may try sending it 'AT+BAUD8" at 9600. That will set it to 115200.
Sending 'AT+NAMEname' will set the name.
No AT commands, no further options.
Hamburger


the device is discovered as "linvor".

when there is no bluetooth session established, i can send "AT" on the wired side and it responds with "OK" (i just powered up the board normally). i tried "AT+BAUD8" and "AT+NAMEname" but there is no response.

my baseboard as an LED that flashes when there is no bluetooth sesssion and goes solid where there is, this LED is tied to PIO1.

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by Hamburger »

noobee wrote:
Hamburger wrote:Hi noobee,

what name does the BT module display if you scan for it from some computer/smartphone?
You may try sending it 'AT+BAUD8" at 9600. That will set it to 115200.
Sending 'AT+NAMEname' will set the name.
No AT commands, no further options.
Hamburger


the device is discovered as "linvor".

when there is no bluetooth session established, i can send "AT" on the wired side and it responds with "OK" (i just powered up the board normally). i tried "AT+BAUD8" and "AT+NAMEname" but there is no response.

my baseboard as an LED that flashes when there is no bluetooth sesssion and goes solid where there is, this LED is tied to PIO1.


Hi,

I have one of these as well.
You are correct about the module:
one LED, blinking and going solid on being connected.
being delivered set to 9600.
does NOT need a programming pin to be pulled high for setup.
Takes following commands
at
at+BAUDx
at+NAMEname
That's it.
Hamburger

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by noobee »

Hamburger wrote:
noobee wrote:
Hamburger wrote:Hi noobee,

what name does the BT module display if you scan for it from some computer/smartphone?
You may try sending it 'AT+BAUD8" at 9600. That will set it to 115200.
Sending 'AT+NAMEname' will set the name.
No AT commands, no further options.
Hamburger


the device is discovered as "linvor".

when there is no bluetooth session established, i can send "AT" on the wired side and it responds with "OK" (i just powered up the board normally). i tried "AT+BAUD8" and "AT+NAMEname" but there is no response.

my baseboard as an LED that flashes when there is no bluetooth sesssion and goes solid where there is, this LED is tied to PIO1.


Hi,

I have one of these as well.
You are correct about the module:
one LED, blinking and going solid on being connected.
being delivered set to 9600.
does NOT need a programming pin to be pulled high for setup.
Takes following commands
at
at+BAUDx
at+NAMEname
That's it.
Hamburger


found the problem.

apparently, i need to cut and paste the AT command string, instead of trying to "type it quickly". i could type just "AT" fast enough for it to acknowledge and respond, but not "AT+BAUD8". once i pasted the "AT+BAUD8" string, the module responded before switching over to the new baud rate.

thanks.

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MultiWiiConf doesn't bind to BT module, Serial Terminal does

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Guys,
I'm stuck in the last step : Having my module working with MultiwiiConf (1.7).
My Bluetooth module appears to be HC-04 (Only basic AT commands + led connected on PIO1).
I successfully connected it and can get data transfert between arduino and PC with a terminal emulator.
However, when I launch MultiWiiconf, I can not get the led stop blinking, as if connection was not initialized.

I managed to get logs from "Serial Monitor" (Trial at http://www.hhdsoftware.com/serial-monitor) that allows to compare application behaviour between the two procedures :

Serial Terminal :
When I press "Open" the terminal connects to the module and led stop blinking (115200/8 /None).

Code: Select all

888139: Create Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:01.515 +1115.015
Process 0x18e8 (hercules_3-2-4.exe) attempted to open the device

888140: Create Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +3.609
Process 0x18e8 (hercules_3-2-4.exe) create request status: 0x00000000

888157: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate
  Baud Rate=115200

888158: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate

888159: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

888160: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

888161: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_DTR: Clear DTR

888162: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_DTR: Clear DTR

888163: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control
  WordLength=8
  StopBits=1 stop bit
  Parity=No parity

888164: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control

888165: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters
  EofChar=0x4
  ErrorChar=0x0
  BreakChar=0x0
  EventChar=0xa
  XonChar=0x0
  XoffChar=0x0

888166: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters

888167: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information
  ControlHandShake=0
  FlowReplace=0
  XonLimit=8192
  XoffLimit=2048

888168: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information

888169: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts
  ReadIntervalTimeout=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutConstant=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutConstant=0

888170: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts

888171: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_DTR: Clear DTR

888172: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_DTR: Clear DTR

888173: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

888174: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

888175: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_PURGE: Purge requests
  Purge mask=TXABORT: Read requests, RXABORT: Receive buffer, TXCLEAR: Write requests, RXCLEAR: Write buffer

888176: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_PURGE: Purge requests

888177: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_WAIT_MASK: Set current event mask
  WaitMask=RXCHAR: Any Character received, CTS: CTS changed state, DSR: DSR changed state, RING: Ring signal detected

888178: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:01:05.125 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_WAIT_MASK: Set current event mask


If I send a "A", I can get the 84bytes in return from the sketch :
SuccessTransfert.jpg

MultiWiiConf :
When I press "Com12" on the GUI, BT module keeps blinking.
Initialization is full of garbage compared to terminal (multiple "Set Baud Rates" at 9600 & 115200):

Code: Select all

958695: Create Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:07.921 +7.578
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) attempted to open the device

958696: Create Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:10.546 +2.625
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) create request status: 0x00000000

958697: Close Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:10.546 +0.0
Buffer size: 0x0 bytes

958698: Close Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:10.546 +0.0
Buffer size: 0x0 bytes
Status: 0x00000000

958699: Create Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.718 +1.171
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) attempted to open the device

958700: Create Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.781 +0.062
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) create request status: 0x00000000

958701: Close Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.781 +0.0
Buffer size: 0x0 bytes

958702: Close Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.781 +0.0
Buffer size: 0x0 bytes
Status: 0x00000000

958703: Create Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.781 +0.0
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) attempted to open the device

958704: Create Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.062
Process 0x378 (javaw.exe) create request status: 0x00000000

958705: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_QUEUE_SIZE: Set queue size
  InSize=2048
  OutSize=1024

958706: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_QUEUE_SIZE: Set queue size

958735: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate
  Baud Rate=9600

958736: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate

958737: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958738: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958739: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958740: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958741: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control
  WordLength=8
  StopBits=1 stop bit
  Parity=No parity

958742: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control

958743: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters
  EofChar=0x4
  ErrorChar=0x0
  BreakChar=0x0
  EventChar=0xa
  XonChar=0x0
  XoffChar=0x0

958744: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters

958745: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information
  ControlHandShake=1
  FlowReplace=0
  XonLimit=0
  XoffLimit=0

958746: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information

958747: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts
  ReadIntervalTimeout=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutConstant=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutConstant=0

958748: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts

958777: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate
  Baud Rate=9600

958778: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate

958779: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958780: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958781: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958782: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958783: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control
  WordLength=8
  StopBits=1 stop bit
  Parity=No parity

958784: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control

958785: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters
  EofChar=0x4
  ErrorChar=0x0
  BreakChar=0x0
  EventChar=0xa
  XonChar=0x0
  XoffChar=0x0
958786: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters

958787: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information
  ControlHandShake=1
  FlowReplace=0
  XonLimit=0
  XoffLimit=0

958788: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information

958789: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts
  ReadIntervalTimeout=4294967295
  ReadTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutConstant=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutConstant=0

958790: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts

958831: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate
  Baud Rate=115200

958832: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE: Set baud rate

958833: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958834: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_CLR_RTS: Clear RTS

958835: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958836: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR: Set DTR

958837: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control
  WordLength=8
  StopBits=1 stop bit
  Parity=No parity

958838: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL: Set line control

958839: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters
  EofChar=0x4
  ErrorChar=0x0
  BreakChar=0x0
  EventChar=0xa
  XonChar=0x0
  XoffChar=0x0

958840: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHARS: Set special characters

958841: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information
  ControlHandShake=1
  FlowReplace=0
  XonLimit=0
  XoffLimit=0

958842: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW: Set handshake information

958843: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts
  ReadIntervalTimeout=4294967295
  ReadTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  ReadTotalTimeoutConstant=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutMultiplier=0
  WriteTotalTimeoutConstant=0

958844: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS: Set timeouts

958845: I/O Request (DOWN), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_WAIT_MASK: Set current event mask
  WaitMask=RXCHAR: Any Character received

958846: I/O Request (UP), 30.04.2011 14:16:11.843 +0.0
IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_WAIT_MASK: Set current event mask

When "start" is pressed, MultiWiiConf sends repeated "A" chars to com port but Bluetooth modules doesn't respond (since obviously not initialized) :
FailedTransfert.jpg


I compared MultiWiiConf init sequence between BT or Wired and it's the same (but wired, it works)
It looks like my BT module doesn't comply with MultiWiiConf initialisation procedure.
Anyone has a clue :?:
Thanks,
ZonK

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by miniquad »

Zonk, are you using the toshiba BT stack? As far as I know only the toshiba BT stack works along with MultiWii config tool.

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Bluetooth stack matters !

Post by ZonK »

I noticed later this afternoon that I was able to get MultiWiiConf to connect to BT module if I manually connected the BT virtual serial port (right click --> connect) before I click on "ComX" button in the GUI.

Following Miniquad advice, I just changed my computer BT Stack (formerly Broadcom 5.5) to a Toshiba 8.0
It now works flawlessly without having to connect manually !
Thanks Miniquad !!! :P

Toshiba stack adds a lot of virtual serial port by default (about 9 if I remember, mainly used for file transfert purposes)
Those numerous ports slows down a lot GUI startup. Just remove them if you don't need them to speed things up (with Windows device manager : Toshiba option panel won't let you do this).

ZonK

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by Berkely »

Hi,

Just to summarize what I did to get it working. Not a big deal but others may just find it usefull.

I bought this blue-tooth module (Link http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280611558914&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)with on-board 3.3V regulator, the board connects directly to the Arduino FTDI plug.

Arduino --> BT Module
GND ---> GND
VCC --> +5V
RX --> TX
TX --> RX

Image

I used the standard USB FTDI cable to set the module to 115000bps.
FTDI -->BT Module
GND ---> GND
5V --> +5V
RX --> TX
TX --> RX

Using Hyper terminal, I was initially unable to communicate with the module until the flow control was disabled.
Image

The unit responded on the command AT (Upper-case only).
The baud rate was changed by copying AT+BAUD8 & pasting the command into hyper terminal (Use paste to host from the edit menu) --> answer 115200OK
The name was changed by the command AT+NAMEMULTI --> answer OKsetname

In Windows device manager the speed from the comm port was changed to 115000bps
Image

At last, the blue-tooth stack was updated to Toshiba v. 8.00, unfortunately this seems like a 30day trial version. The device was added, a new com port created. I needed to bind with the default "pin" 1234 by the way.

Now I just need to get the app on my Blackberry.

Thanks Hamburger, Miniquad & the others for the posts where all above information can be found.

Regards
B.
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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by Georgeus »

whic is suitable?

Arduino Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module with Backplane Host
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/arduino-seri ... lane-.html

Arduino Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232 Passive
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/arduino-seri ... ssive.html

Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232 w/ Backplane Enable & State Pin
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/serial-bluet ... pin-1.html

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

Post by JussiH »

Hi people...

I have the new promini shields with BT module pads in now....

I am offering some up for free to people who has had succes with BT modules for testing and research....

Contact me for details

Jussi

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

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PM Sent :)

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

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PM sent over at RCG.

Jussi, thanks for your ongoing efforts.

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Re: Serial Bluetooth RF Transceiver Module RS232

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