Naze32 hardware discussion thread

hinkel · Post by **hinkel** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:17 pm

raulmd wrote:You are right.
I would clean the burnt part of the board with a sharpen tool to avoid the trace (The part is left) make contact with the plane.
After that, use a thin wire to connect the two pins marked in the picture.
And if you want to do it perfect, use some non conductive glue to glue the wire to the board in the middle point.

Well done !

raulmd · Post by **raulmd** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:24 pm

Oh, shit, didn't see the via :oops:

hope nobody has made some black smoke because of me.
Let me modify my post. Should be connected to the pin in front of the 5 in the other side of the board (Marked with a point) That is ok now?

elmtree · Post by **elmtree** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:12 pm

Well I went with the wire wrap route 'cause I didn't see that. I also borrowed some nice bright pink nail polish to cover the trace after cleaning the area out.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5149816/2013-11-28%2014.08.27.jpg

hinkel · Post by **hinkel** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:09 am

elmtree wrote:Well I went with the wire wrap route 'cause I didn't see that. I also borrowed some nice bright pink nail polish to cover the trace after cleaning the area out.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5149816/2013-11-28%2014.08.27.jpg

timecop wrote:Did you do something dumb like plugging in ESCs with BECs in them into naze and THEN using separate ubec for transmitter?

Just use one 5V Power source for Naze32 board , also it seems that all 5V ESC (RED Wire ) are plugged in the Board, IMHO It is not so good !

theailer · Post by **theailer** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:38 am

I don't think that removing the +5v cable from the escs servo contact make a difference at all.

teslahed · Post by **teslahed** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:54 pm

vvk wrote:elmtree I had the same problem with the twitching outputs, checked the naze32 with a scope and found out that there's no jitter on the ppm input, but the motor outputs are jerking when the rx (hawkeye in my case) is close to the naze32. It seems the naze is getting swamped by RF interference from the RX - initially I thought it was the opposite.

Try disabling the telemetry in the openlrsng config, it worked for me.

Just to confirm - i have been having the exact same issues with my openLRSng receiver / transmitter modules and my naze32 quadcopter. I was seeing random jitter on all the inputs that made the thing almost totally unflyable. I had to grab the quadcopter out of the air at one point.

Disabling telemetry on the receiver has made the issue go away. It must be to do with harmonics as scrat mentioned;

scrat wrote:[]Unfortunately jitter is comming from naze32 board because cpu runs at 72mhz and this is in harmonyc with 433mhz. There is one thread at fpvlab about this.

shuricus · Post by **shuricus** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:23 pm

Hi,

Will it work if I solder this board directly to old baro pads at AfroMini32?
Is it only SDA/SCL/VCC/GND are necessary?

Thanks.

hinkel · Post by **hinkel** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:27 pm

teslahed wrote:Disabling telemetry on the receiver has made the issue go away. It must be to do with harmonics as scrat mentioned;
scrat wrote:[]Unfortunately jitter is comming from naze32 board because cpu runs at 72mhz and this is in harmonyc with 433mhz. There is one thread at fpvlab about this.

Timecop have a fix for this issue,

but it is not in baseflight for the momment ! :?:

timecop wrote:You want to change this line:
RCC_CFGR_PLLMUL = GPIOC->IDR & CAN_MCR_RESET ? hse_value = 12000000, RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL6 : RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL9;
6->7
RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL6 -> RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL7 and
RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL9 -> RCC_CFGR_PLLMULL10

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3524&start=330#p42435

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:40 am

shuricus wrote:Hi,

Will it work if I solder this board directly to old baro pads at AfroMini32?
Is it only SDA/SCL/VCC/GND are necessary?

Yes.

shuricus · Post by **shuricus** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:21 am

Thanks а lot!

QAV400 · Post by **QAV400** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:25 pm

90 degree angle headers installed so install on qav400 can be mounted in intended FC holes.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:22 am

kaysee wrote:Thanx TC. I conclude that I can't use my osd connected to the board with the TELEMETRY feature enable. On second thought, what am I thinking to have them both for

Now I am trying to get my second quad with a Naze32 to work properly. I have done the acc calibration as per my Acronaze32 and did the mag calibration as well. But my quad seems to change direction on its own if i turn the MAG on.

Question:

1. Where and what i have to look for to make sure my mag is properly calibrated?

2. I get this info - "Magnetic declination: 0° 6' WEST. Declination is NEGATIVE." from here - http://magnetic-declination.com/

mag_declination = -006? Is this the right way to write it? I don't see any example with a 0 deg declination.

Kaysee-

Were you ever able to resolve your MAG issue? I'm getting the same thing- with mag on, it slowly yaws to the right.

shuricus · Post by **shuricus** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:27 am

timecop wrote:
shuricus wrote:Hi,

Will it work if I solder this board directly to old baro pads at AfroMini32?
Is it only SDA/SCL/VCC/GND are necessary?

Yes.

Sorry TC, one more question - is it better to power this baro board with 5V or 3.3V?

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:53 am

Probably doesn't matter. I'd say 3V will work

kaysee · Post by **kaysee** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:00 pm

Scott wrote:Kaysee-

Were you ever able to resolve your MAG issue? I'm getting the same thing- with mag on, it slowly yaws to the right.

Now its working just fine for me.
First, the my problem was with my ESCs were not calibrated. My quad tends to slowly yaws to the right in acro mode. Calibrated. Solve that.
I then key in the mag_declination. Calibrated the quad outside in the open with all electronics and payloads on board where it suppose to be using TX stick combination to initiate mag calibration and do the dance. Afterward, check if the compass pointing to the right direction without skipping its heading. Repeat calibration until it does.

Hope this helps

regards
kaysee

alistairr · Post by **alistairr** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:47 am

I've been having an occasional issue with my quad twitching also. Thought it was noise from the BEC but I have been using an FrSky rx with telemetry so I'll try changing that. I have never seen it before with Spektrum or Rangelink so hopefully this helps. I've been powering down and restarting quad a couple of times which has worked so far but this sounds like a better fix.

KC_703 · Post by **KC_703** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:02 am

Sorry if this has been discussed.

Has anyone gotten the Lemon-RX PPM to work with this board?

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:06 am

Why wouldn't it work? Is it standard PPM?

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:07 pm

New question form my side. I have bought minimOSD v1.1 board from HK. I'll connect this to naze32 rev5 board. On this board there is dedicated BAT connector. Can I connect + and - cable directly from distro board without and resistors? And will I be able to see voltage directly on OSD or I need to do harware mod on OSD board?

Thanks.

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:17 pm

Yes you can connect it directly to battery. Watch polarity. ground, always outer edge. Reverse polarity = smokey.
It should be OK up to 6S or so, maybe higher. Code only checks up to 6S.

All you need is feature vbat (default I think)
and then your OSD needs to request battery info (it probably already does or can be configured so).

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:51 pm

Reverse polarity is bad

. I have just 3S battery. VBAT is enabled by default. I think that OSD request battery info.

I'll try this and report back.

And you'll have PM in about a minute.....edit: no pm for you. Can you send me your email or something...I have business info for you.

Thanks again.

edit: no pm for you. Can you send me your email or something...I have business info for you.

edit again:

Call me stupid but I do not know how to solder ESC's on your afropower_mini board. Could you be so kind and tell me where should I solder + and where -. And could afropower_mini take 60A power?

aBUGSworstnightmare · Post by **aBUGSworstnightmare** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:44 am

scrat wrote:Call me stupid but I do not know how to solder ESC's on your afropower_mini board. Could you be so kind and tell me where should I solder + and where -. And could afropower_mini take 60A power?

afropower_mini.jpg

Hey scrat,

I'm scared! Is it that complicated?

Why not just solder - (GND) to one of the - pads (always 3 grouped together, clearly labeled ) and + to one of the + pads? Have a look at this pic if you still have questions: http://www.microcopters.de/photos/158/dsc-3888.jpg

By the way: the side shown in your pic is the - (GND) side of the board. Just in case you want to use the small outer pads for connecting LEDS or so.

aBUGSworstnightmare

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:34 am

aBUGSworstnightmare wrote:
scrat wrote:Call me stupid but I do not know how to solder ESC's on your afropower_mini board. Could you be so kind and tell me where should I solder + and where -. And could afropower_mini take 60A power?

afropower_mini.jpg

Hey scrat,

I'm scared! Is it that complicated?

Why not just solder - (GND) to one of the - pads (always 3 grouped together, clearly labeled ) and + to one of the + pads? Have a look at this pic if you still have questions: http://www.microcopters.de/photos/158/dsc-3888.jpg

By the way: the side shown in your pic is the - (GND) side of the board. Just in case you want to use the small outer pads for connecting LEDS or so.

aBUGSworstnightmare

Don't be scared

. For me it was complicated till now :oops:

I just don't want to fry something. And thanks for picture you posted.

And what amperage can this board take?

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:02 pm

If you have to ask, then you shouldn't be using it.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:43 pm

thanks TC you are so kind.

Could you answermy question about Amperes?

raulmd · Post by **raulmd** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:02 pm

@scrat, he wants you to abuse it so you have to buy a new one :lol:

. Nah, current in this passive PDB is all about temperature. Unless you go too far and burn the board. Try it for a small amount of time and after that measure temperature.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:54 am

Thanks raulmd.

rank · Post by **rank** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:23 pm

Hi,
I'm having a problem with getting TELEMETRY to work.

Is there something wrong with my set up?

Naze rev5 board,the battery pins on naza connected to the distribution board and the voltage is displayed properly within GUI
Receiver Frsky D4r-II connected to naza 32 as per picture.
in Cli: "FEATURE TELEMETRY" and saved
In Taranis, I've choosen FAS as voltage source.
But I get no data on the telemetry screen, apart from the receiver's own RSSI A1 A2. FAS voltage is showing 0

Tried both BASEFLIGHT (latest) and Harakiri, but no luck with both

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:29 am

rank wrote:Hi,
But I get no data on the telemetry screen, apart from the receiver's own RSSI A1 A2. FAS voltage is showing 0

Did you arm?
Telemetry only starts going of board is armed.
Also, no idea if telemetry still exists or works in harakiri - I wouldn't count on it. I can only say what baseflight does.

rank · Post by **rank** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:34 am

Yeah, armed or unarmed, no telemetry data whatsoever. Anything else I could try?!

Also, I found this 2 particular settings, which hang my rev5.
feature MOTOR_STOP and
set tri_unarmed_servo = 0

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:47 am

I very much doubt changing a setting would hang anything.
Telemetry works - I've got 2 quads flying with D8R and D8R-II and telemetry without issues.

rank · Post by **rank** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:41 am

so for the telemetry you have exactly the same connection?
I measured with a voltmeter, the receiver's Rx/Gnd and Naze's Tx/Gnd are displaying some micro voltage. So the connection is not broken.

As for the settings, I tried it a few times over. Everything goes fine till the moment I enable those. Harakiri didn't have those issues.

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:08 am

Sorry to hear that.
Maybe you want to go back to harakiri then.

Having written the code (and not actually copypasting it), I can guarantee you that enabling either of those settings cannot cause a "hang" of any kind.

Are you running latest firmware from github?

rank · Post by **rank** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:13 am

Yep, used chrome gui and flashed the latest online version

QAV400 · Post by **QAV400** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:04 am

Does "throtle mid" do any thing to the throtle if you are not using any throtle expo in the gui?

as when looking at the throtle line it doesnt do nothing unless some expo is added in

Im trying to sort out a quad that not holding altitude that well

frankdevos · Post by **frankdevos** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:01 pm

strange issue on naze 32 acro. (purple board, latest)i already used a lot of the naze boards, but this never happend before: set the throtlle at 1050/1090 in the gui, everything looks normal, but when i arm the board and giving throtlle , the motors are starting at 50/55 and reacting normal, but under 50 % no throtlle??
set-up:
4xafro esc 12a
4x zmr 1804 2400kv
3s 100mha
naze 32 acro

gr frank

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:21 pm

You used old configurator software.
Your minthrottle is now zero.
set minthrottle=1100
save

frankdevos · Post by **frankdevos** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:46 pm

thanks a lot tc. i was troubeling al morning with it. it works!!
wich config software should i use ??
iám working now with baseflight 2.3.5.0
gr frank

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:11 am

Use Google Chrome baseflight configurator.

frankdevos · Post by **frankdevos** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:43 pm

thx , going to try it

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:40 pm

Hi. Who want to have case for naze32 like me? 8-)

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:11 am

Question...I'm running simonk FW on F30A with comp_pwm enabled. Is this safe on naze32? One user posted in mwii section, that he was using comp_pwm and onboard sensor have failed?

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:32 am

Yeah, totally likely scenario.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:52 am

So it's best to disable comp_pwm?

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:26 am

Sorry, i forgot to enclose in <sarcasm> tags.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:38 am

ok. Then i'll leave it enabled.

raulmd · Post by **raulmd** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:52 pm

scrat wrote:Hi. Who want to have case for naze32 like me?

I want a 3D printer like yours

.

I have read that the GPS antena should be higher than the rest of components, for better reception...

scrat · Post by **scrat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:09 pm

raulmd wrote:
scrat wrote:Hi. Who want to have case for naze32 like me?

I want a 3D printer like yours .

I have read that the GPS antena should be higher than the rest of components, for better reception...

Send me a PM and I'll send you email from mz friend who make this cases.
This frame is for testnig. On the non-testnig frame, I'll have GPS higher then the rest of the components.

Scotth72 · Post by **Scotth72** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:31 am

Is it possible to get gps and osd working at the same time? I can get the gps working no problem. I can get the minimosd working no problem. I can't get them to work together. If the gps is working, the minimosd just hangs on start up. Is there a serial port issue? Tried both 20131126 and latest firmwares.

timecop · Post by **timecop** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:58 am

Sounds like minimosd problem.
worked fine with afroosd last time I tried.